And they solved the problem of someone already living in that home rather ingeniously, didn't they...

Ingeniously? Supposing there is a such thing as a race being divinely accorded an entire continent by birthright, Europeans were hardly ingenious. Europeans did what people the world over had been doing for thousands of years. The only difference is the modern world is Euro-critical, which does extend from Eurocentrism. Given that other types of civilization are not self-reflecting, and the West is not critical of them, for various reasons, there are no discussion of what others have done in a meaningful manner.

For your information, the Indians are neither "Native" nor "First." Archaeology and anthropology are revealing more and more of these muted revelations as the days, weeks, months, and years pass. The Indians came from another continent to occupy two continents which likely already had human residents.

National Geographic's Who Were The First Americans?(link)

Study: "Native Americans" Weren't the First

Well, what does that mean? That Indians are to be oppressed and treated badly? Absolutely not. They should be given the same rights every other human being deserves. But they, and their advocates, should come of their high horses and accept themselves for who they are: the same as everyone else--no more guilty or innocent than the rest of us. No more deserving of a racial birthright of a continent. Now we can be content that the Indians are like the Spanish, the French, the English, the Germans, the Huns (and I don't mean the Germans again), the Mongols, the Magyars, the Arabs, the Turks, the Jews, the Moors, the Bantu, and the Aryans.

KB--

Its a natural habit [for lack of a better word], humans are by nature savage, and invasion, subjugation,etc... are our deepest most natural instincts, it isn't just the white people, look at the mongols, the chinese, magyrs, and other non white ethnic groups that invaded and conquered the former inhabitants of the areas they invaded [if there were any]

Because you are ashamed of the accomplishments of your race.

Unbelievable. Have you totally lost your mind, girl? Your interpretation of my posts into this psychobabble is utterly devoid of any rational thinking. The accomplishments of "my" race is not even at issue here; not even close.

.... instead of recognizing the simple truth of what I said.

If this was a joke, it's not funny. You have so twisted my thoughts just for the purpose of insulting me. You're digging yourself into a deep one here. No, white europeans did not invent racism. Duh....... But, they sure did revel in its possibilities over the past few centuries, by kidnapping africans for the slave trade, as one example, then forcing them into sub(white)standard housing, education, health care, etc. That's what I said. Your "simple truths" are unadulterated racism. Ashamed, are ya, by your people's misdeeds, maybe. Or, you're just proud to be one of those grand conquerors, as you so disturbedly framed it. I suspect the latter.

But you did correctly identify the root cause of the concept of white supremacy, (or at least superiority) with that statement.

Something you apparently know oh so well..........

Its a natural habit [for lack of a better word], humans are by nature savage, and invasion, subjugation,etc... are our deepest most natural instincts, it isn't just the white people,

This is definitely a very sad truism. But, we have been on this planet for thousands of years. We've evolved, or so I'd like to think. Call me a romantic, but I'd like to think that humans have outgrown the need to be such savages. But, given that are now living in a modern world, and we have made technological advances that no longer require the spreading of our gene pools in such barbaric ways, I will continue to fight for peace justice and equality of all races. It's imperative, or we're lost. As Dr. Martin Luther King stated, "Either we live together as brothers and sisters, or we die together as fools." Amen to that. I choose the living together part.

Dabe, I agree with you on that, and just a piece of advice, with those on this site that believe the way they do, i would still post what you believe, but don't be so...quick to anger/insult, cause there have been times (granted,also with others, including I) that that has happened, i know you mean well, but with the grouping of people here....its a "minefield"....ok, just a bit of help form a friend nextdoor....(figuratively speaking)

We've evolved

-I'd like to think we have, then i deal with people like my sisters former husband, then i start worrieing about our race... (Seriously though )

but I'd like to think that humans have outgrown the need to be such savages

--We'd like to think so...

But, given that are now living in a modern world, and we have made technological advances that no longer require the spreading of our gene pools in such barbaric ways,

--Yeah, you'd think so, that with the growth of technology and such, that we'd change, but there are other factors i think, space, there are countries that are getting a bit big (china for example) and i remember reading some theory by some professor about the human race and its path, about the stages and that as we get higher,more towards 'enlightenment' the harder it will be because along the way their will be greater barbarity (new types of torture,etc..) I'll have to see if i can find it....probably stashed in a box somewhere...

quick question, how do you customize your favorites, and how do you get a pic to go next to your name...?

I already did once, and all I got was a sarcastic remark someone who obviously did not even bother to look at it.

obvious to whom? my remark may have been sarcastic but not invalid or undeserved. strip the article down to its core (i'd advise tossing out at least a half-dozen usages of the word 'paradigm' first please)and you pretty much have what i suggested: a thinly disguised attempted assertion that racism isn't actually racism--but on the offchance it is, it's justified and besides those most likely to suffer its effects are the most pervasive practioners.

same ol stuff in a threadbare if slightly different wrapper.

Archaeology and anthropology are revealing more and more of these muted revelations as the days, weeks, months, and years pass. The Indians came from another continent to occupy two continents which likely already had human residents.

even by the least stringent standard, there's no basis for suggesting anything more than a possibility. i particularly love this:

The skulls from Baja California, which may date back only a few hundred years, have slender-looking faces that are different from the broad-cheeked craniums of modern Amerindians, the descendants of the Mongoloid people.

a few hundred years??? rather than being the original occupants, it's much more likely they were aboard the maiden voyage of the first ship to transport illegal immigrants from china to ensenada.

quick question, how do you customize your favorites, and how do you get a pic to go next to your name...?

first, do you know the secret handshake?

you can do the custom favorite thing by going to your blog site and selecting 'my account'. when the page loads, youll see two boxes near the top of the page. the one on the right is titled Select Site & Option To Edit: and has 5 radio buttons. select the bottom one and when that page loads, just follow the prompts and instructions.

the icon thing is done by going to wincustomize.com and logging in to your acct (which exists because you have an acct at ju). once you're logged in, select 'my account' (towards the right side underneath the main tabs). when that loads, select the update image tab and use the update icon image or whatever it's really called. the icon must be a jpeg and can't be larger than 50x50px.

thanks KB

First you say they did, then dozens of replies later, after the statement has been thoroughly rebutted, you act like you never said it in the first place.

One last time, for the extremely dense........

When I stated that racism was a white man's construct, I was referring to American racism, and to which I did say I should have stated that. American racism. Slavery, segregation, and all that jazz.

Now, listen very closely, because I know this is difficult. I was agreeing that racism, on a whole and for the planet earth in general was not "invented" by white man, and is apparent throughout history. The racism that we Americans live within today is most definitely a white man's construct.

The concept here, whip, is American racism v world historical racism. Duh.... Duh..... and DUHHHHHHHHHH It must be so difficult for you.........

i know you mean well, but with the grouping of people here....its a "minefield"....ok, just a bit of help form a friend nextdoor....(figuratively speaking)

Thanks Lucas. Points well taken. I have been trying to ignore her, but she just keeps digging and digging and digging, even with that last dumbass comment. I feel compelled to dig back. At least I'm not calling her names.

--Yeah, you'd think so, that with the growth of technology and such, that we'd change, but there are other factors i think, space, there are countries that are getting a bit big (china for example) and i remember reading some theory by some professor about the human race and its path, about the stages and that as we get higher,more towards 'enlightenment' the harder it will be because along the way their will be greater barbarity (new types of torture,etc..) I'll have to see if i can find it....probably stashed in a box somewhere...

I agree with you again, Lucas, but this is the oh so unromantic part. I keep trying to think we've evolved beyond our cave days savagery. Apparently, given some of the responses herein about invading and conquering, we sure as sh*t haven't. I guess only some of us have.

obvious to whom? my remark may have been sarcastic but not invalid or undeserved. strip the article down to its core (i'd advise tossing out at least a half-dozen usages of the word 'paradigm' first please)and you pretty much have what i suggested: a thinly disguised attempted assertion that racism isn't actually racism--but on the offchance it is, it's justified and besides those most likely to suffer its effects are the most pervasive practioners. same ol stuff in a threadbare if slightly different wrapper.

Amazing! You have marginal comprehension skills. Then when you can't come up with a cogent rebuttal, you just throw out accusations of racism. Then no one who buys your religious dogma is required to think, and guilty whites, skittish of their own racism shadow, will follow suit. And Whitey can still be the menacing devil you wish to portray him as. There's no need to strip anything bare, or to make an issue of the use of a word (whose usage was perfectly appropriate). Respond to what the article says, not what you want to others to believe it says.

If rational discrimination is tantamount to racism, then maybe racism really isn't all that abominable.

Harmful to whom?

Everyone. Everyone who has to live in fear, which everyone now does. Whether you're afraid that someone's gonna jump you or that you will be denied opportunities or that you will be stopped by the police and questioned for walking down your block, everyone is afraid and no one is better off for it.

I already did once, and all I got was a sarcastic remark someone who obviously did not even bother to look at it.

I'm not going to repeat the fact that I agreed with the statement that all stereotypes have their basis in some truth, because if you didn't see it the first eight times, you won't see it now. I want to mention my argument that responsibility to fix things does not fall on any one race, but I doubt you'll see that either.

Ingeniously? Supposing there is a such thing as a race being divinely accorded an entire continent by birthright, Europeans were hardly ingenious. Europeans did what people the world over had been doing for thousands of years. The only difference is the modern world is Euro-critical, which does extend from Eurocentrism. Given that other types of civilization are not self-reflecting, and the West is not critical of them, for various reasons, there are no discussion of what others have done in a meaningful manner.

And as the person who you're defending points out, two wrongs don't make a right. If you want to write an article about the atrocities the Indians have committed, go ahead. I'll be there. I'll comment. I'll agree with you that they did some horrible things. We're not talking about that here.

If you want to talk about America's CURRENT racism, I'd venture it is a BLACK man's construct.

Unless you plan to prove that racism against Blacks and other minorities has completely disappeared, you should probably argue that it is a DUAL construct.

I see. So it's entirely the 'white man's construct' that blacks, after fighting for decades to achieve civil rights to ensure their inclusion in every facet of American society, now feel the need to have seperate "black" versions of everything under the sun as well?

Yes. Is it hypocritical? Yes. Is it racist? Yes. Is it the white man's fault? Yes. Sorry, but you don't get to tell us to fuck off for years and then be upset that we made our own groups. That's what you wanted, remember?

How 'bout "The Association of Black Data Entry Clerks?" (a real organization) or the "Association of Black Skiiers?" (another real organization.)

And what a danger those Black data entry clerks pose to the white community...imagine...clerical errors run amok...

White Americans have bent over backwards to appease this segment of our population, to the point of which even the mere utterance of a racially sensitive comment causes heads to roll, careers to be lost, and major lawsuits to be launched. We have made it a FEDERAL crime to discriminate based on race--but that only seems to apply to whites. Blacks and other minorities are not only permitted, but encouraged to have their own, seperate versions of these events and institutions, excluding all others from participation, yet no one calls THEM racist.

If you think that white Americans have bent over backwards, you have a sadly misguided view of how much is left to be done.