Quick question of my own:

Why is it that JoeUser Conservatives carry around their Goddamn pedestals in a holster, just waiting for the opportunity to whip them out? Why is it that they can be having a civilized discussion with people of different viewpoints, but the second that someone (emphasis on the word "one", as in singular) resorts to bad debating technique (i.e. namecalling), they immediately clutch at this as a way to launch an unified attack against anyone who disagrees with them, regardless of whether or not these other people have ever called anybody anything?

Oh, and I should also mention that approximately 5 seconds after getting on their high horse, they start namecalling too, but its ok when they do it because they recant their generalizations as soon as someone notices, then say that they were only talking about "certain members" of the group they disagree with, and they're sorry if someone misinterpreted. I believe this is what they fervently called "flip-flopping" a couple of months back.

And if they don't do this, rest assured that they will namecall anyways, but its ok because someone did it to them first, or some other such nonsense.

At this point, let me just exclude Dr. Guy from this article, since he's the only Conservative whom I can't recall has ever resorted to the aforementioned tactics. And Moderateman, for the most part.

Lastly, can we stop these articles about people and what they do and how they disagree with you and how horrible they are? If any of us really wanted to, I'm sure we could come up with at least one article a day about why the Conservatives and/or Liberals here suck. But we don't, cuz we don't get anywhere.

Just like I didn't here.


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on May 23, 2005

PB,

All of them?  Are we doing a MM west?

Sorry if you got dumped on, but personally, I think you gave as good as you got.  The problem is that you were not going to change, and neither were any of them (us?).

You did frustrate some.  I understood early, so I just watched. But I think you just did an Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!

N'est pas?

on May 23, 2005
don't forget me...at least i don't remember name calling...(if i had, i do apologize)
on May 23, 2005
don't forget me...at least i don't remember name calling...(if i had, i do apologize)


Uh, yea, Phoenix, me too! If I did, mea culpa and I am sorry!
on May 23, 2005
Self rightous> why I outta call down the wrath of God on you for this blasphemy.
on May 23, 2005
If you're talking about me...well...I think most "liberals" do their fair share of name calling as well. I don't think anyone in any political scope is guiltless of that.

But I agree with you...it's not right and we shouldn't be doing it because it doesn't get us anywhere.

Lastly, can we stop these articles about people and what they do and how they disagree with you and how horrible they are? If any of us really wanted to, I'm sure we could come up with at least one article a day about why the Conservatives and/or Liberals here suck. But we don't, cuz we don't get anywhere.


I wrote an article about Myrrander QUITE some time ago after I had been name-called several times, not to mention my Ryan. Enough was enough. Since then, we've been civil and I'e been interacting with him as much as I've been able to since he's "banished" to his own blog, and frankly, I think it's time to let him "out," so to speak. It's all over with, it's water under the bridge, and it's time to move on. As for my other article about my being blacklisted...I didn't even MENTION a blogger till it went to the forums and I quoted the blogger who blacklisted me. I wasn't hateful as I was accused to be, I simply disagreed. But...~shrugs~ ...then I don't have to listen to that blogger's self-righteous liberalism anymore either. So...it's all good.
on May 23, 2005
They team up better than we do Philo. Remember this is a predominantly Rightie site.

I think Brad should have a header on the home page that states....

"All liberals abandon all hope all ye who enter here" :::

on May 23, 2005
I will say this. I have found a lot of common ground around here in the past few months. The problem is that nobody can actually hear the other peoples opinions when you're screaming back and forth.

They're just people with different viewpoints. If me & Dr. Guy can get along and actually get to like each other (political opinions notwithstanding) there's hope!

Sometimes ya just gotta take the anger back a notch and talk. If someone keeps getting on their pedestal....keep chipping away at it.
on May 23, 2005
As I have pointed out before, to which this article addresses, there is clearly a jingo double standard here.

I dunno. They don't call names? Like hell.
Loony
Loopy
Luddite
Moron
BS
Asshat

that one particular blogger who shall remain nameless who I blacklisted says she only "disagreed with me". Yeah, like hell, again. Maybe not name calling, but ridicule qualifies. So, as ridicule is also HATEFUL, I blacklisted her. Big freakin' deal. Nothing she has to say interests me anyway.

DOUBLE STANDARDS. That simple.
on May 23, 2005
8 by thatoneguyinslc
Monday, May 23, 2005


I pay close attention to you, njforever, the fazz {whereever he is?} and thatoneguyinsl.. I discount col{bush is the reason for all evil} gene, Dabe {i hate anyone that disagrees with me}Reiki { I hate all things jewish and american}house, and a couple others are skating on the edge with me as far as discounting anything they say.
on May 23, 2005
njforever, the fazz {whereever he is?}


Thanks and you can find him somewhere. The problem is, unlike me, who writes almost every little idea that pops into my head, he'll take a month to come up with an idea then decide not to write it.

Onto the actual article. I think everyone can be guilty of name-calling, sitting on a pedestal, etc. After all, the only people who don't lose their cool are those who never had it. I think liberals just get called on it more here because this is mainly a conservative site. In a perfect world, no one would name-call or whatnot, but if this world was perfect, we wouldn't have much need for politics in the first place.
on May 23, 2005
that one particular blogger who shall remain nameless who I blacklisted says she only "disagreed with me". Yeah, like hell, again. Maybe not name calling, but ridicule qualifies. So, as ridicule is also HATEFUL, I blacklisted her. Big freakin' deal. Nothing she has to say interests me anyway.

DOUBLE STANDARDS. That simple.


Yet we're supposed to say its okay for you to call people "useless toads"? I think that conservatives aren't the only ones with double standards.
on May 23, 2005
No it's not, Marcie, I continue to get hate mail from him, 7 in this past week alone. Since he was restricted due to things he said to me and admin, I don't think you get a *vote* in this.

Thats all I have to say on any of this. Have a nice evening, all.


Why don't you put his email through to junk or just have it go straight to trash? It's not like you have to feel obligated to sit there and read it all if he's really being a complete moron to you.

And no...I'm not playing both sides. It's cyberspace, and you don't have to put up with BS, you know what I mean?
on May 24, 2005
what you're perceiving as self-righteousness is, i believe, often more like overcompensation. while there are certainly true believers on various points along the continuum, it appears to me as if many conservatives (and many more who cluelessly proclaim themselves as such) have yet to realize they are no longer the underdog minority they once were.

one of the more obvious symptoms is the illogical, almost paranoid, insistence that the media is heavily biased against them. despite the obvious fact that the three major broadcast networks are owned--and therefore controlled--by such wild-eyed leftleaning enterprises as disney/cap cities (abc), westinghouse (cbs) and general electric/microsoft (nbc). curiously, the fox network(which is owned by a foreign tycoon) has them eating outta its less than objective hand by catering to their confusion.

damn near every (if not all) so-called conservative issue raised on joeuser--including those dealing with national policy implemented by an administration claiming a mandate and a republican-controlled legislature--is couched in unecessarily defensive terms and/or evidences a need for validation.
on May 24, 2005
Philomedy, you ignorant slut! I couldn't disagree with you more! When are you liberals going to wake up to the fact that conservatives aren't "Self-Righteous", just Right? As the saying goes "If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative by 30, you have no brain," well, GROW UP!!! ;~D
on May 24, 2005
Philomedy, you mean stuff like that? ;~D
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